
After chatting at length with Kyle about the ordering process, reimbursement of follow-up tailoring expenses and their total satisfaction guarantee, I agreed to give it a try.
Indochino donated the suit to OTC, so it cost me nothing; however there still aren't too many places where you get a custom suit for around $400 dollars in less than a week. I chose a navy two-button, notched lapel, single breasted suit with double vents. I also added pick stitching, surgeon cuffs and purple lining.

The suit, yes. Me, no.
The online ordering process is very easy, though it takes longer than you might think to actually take all the measurements - and you definitely need someone to take them for you. In my case it was a very patient wife. If you need help along the way, each step has a short video to walk you through the process. Once you are done, your online profile can be used to speed you through future orders.
The suit arrived very quickly, in less than one week. Given that it was made in Shanghai, that's pretty impressive. I suspected that the likelihood of it fitting perfectly right out of the box was slim, and it turns out I was correct. The collar was way off - the result of a tight fit across the shoulder blades - and the pants' waist too big. I took some pictures and e-mailed them off to the company. After a quick consult with the Indochino tailors a new suit was cut and whisked off to me. The new one is pretty much perfect and I wear is regularly.
Though I have not yet ordered another suit, I can always keep my measurements and preferences up to date in the online profile. While I look forward to the day that I can go to OTC contributor Jon Green for a bespoke suit, I am happy to say that my Indochino suit is very comfortable and regularly garners some darn good compliments.
You should note that their basic cut is clearly modern: shorter jacket, trimmer fit, 18-inch leg openings, narrower lapel. That said, you can alter and tweak pretty much anything to your preference. I am not a 20-something - not even a 30-something anymore; and that is their target demographic. So, I took some time and modified the suit to fit my frame and desired look, and it works on me. Without a doubt, I will be adding to my Indochino wardrobe.
Indochino is not competing with Savile Row or even the Ralph Lauren's of the wardrobing world. For some, these are clearly "starter" suits or fashion suits for the post college crowd. I take a different Instead approach - I think Indochino can make suits cool again for men who like clothes. My suit looks current, yes; but by no means is it overly modern. It is well made and will last for many years in both style and construction. More importantly, I can easily choose, customize and purchase a new suit in a very short amount of time at a very economical price. As a result, to me, my suits are no longer only for important meetings or getting dressed up. They can be a more integral part of my wardrobe.
I can order a couple of casually designed suits as well as several formal models for a relatively modest investment. I can make the suit part of my own signature; with or without a tie, cap toe dressy or Todd's moccasin casual. Indochino opens up interesting new possibilities for men; possibilities that did not previously exist at this price point.
By no means will I abandon my local custom tailor, VM Clothiers; I see them as two very different resources. And Jon Green can sleep easy - he won't lose any clients. But a new door is being wedged open and the Indochino team rightly sees a lot of potential upside.

Wall Street Collection
Having a love of clothing and classic style should never preclude you from going online to track down new options and new resources. Whether it be Rugby.com to design your own custom rugby shirt or Indochino and a new suit from their very sharp and recently launched Wall Street Collection.
Below is a brand new video from Indochino showing how they make their suits - from the initial online order to the finished product heading off to the office. It's very well done - take a look. By the way, the gentlemen you are about to see are not actors, they are Indochino's master tailors, and yes, they really do dress that way every day. You can also find the video on their You Tube channel HERE.
As any else tried it out yet?
ReplyDelete"Indochino donated the suit to OTC, so it cost me nothing."
ReplyDeleteDo you mean he gave it to you, or are you a charitable organization? I've seen this very odd tendency in some food blogs as well. Receiving luxury goods -- such as suits or meals -- from a profit-seeking company seeking publicity ain't the same thing as getting a review copy of a book or a movie.
Patrick - They gave the suit to me at no cost. While not the same thing as getting a book, OTC's audience is interested is clothing, watches, grooming, accessories, etc. So, from a marketing perspective it makes very good sense - as long as your product is good. If the suit or the service were poor, I would have said so with equally specificity.
ReplyDeleteI can't speak for any other blogs, but OTC is not a business, it is a personal project with no corporate backing, no investors. So, for me to be able to review a product at no cost, or at a discounted cost, is invaluable. Some companies do, some don't.
If I do receive something for free or at a discount, I'll say so - because I am now legally required to - but also because I think it's right. I hope this helps.
Could you add a few pictures so everyone can judge how well the suit fits?
ReplyDeleteChris, great article and I like the style of the suit; but, like you, are at the tail end of their demographic.
ReplyDeleteIt' something to think about.
Adam Nelson
I was contacted separately about Indochino's alteration policy. I meant to include it originally, but forgot to.
ReplyDeleteApart from replacing an entire suit, which they will do if appropriate, Indochino covers the cost of most reasonable alterations made by your local tailor (I believe there is a maximum amount).
Simply go to the website and print the alterations form. Have your tailor note what he/she did to correct the fit and send the form and your receipt to Indochino for reimbursement. The corrections are reflected in your online profile so that future suit should fit correctly.
Again, this is not close to true custom. Simply, Indochino does not make suits from a pattern cut to ones individual measurements. They, like most made to measure operations, have standard pre-cut patterns, just like OTR. The difference lies in the fact that these suits may be pre-altered to your measurements, and a few token modifications made (working cuffs, button type, linings, etc).
ReplyDeleteTry asking for a roped shoulder, or neopolitan pockets and see what happens. Nothing. These shops, while producing a moderately well-fitting (in some instances) product, are not true bespoke or custom shops, and should not be considered as such. I am surprised that someone who writes a mens clothing blog either does not realize, or chooses to ignore, the enormous gap between factory made to measure and true custom or bespoke. Using the word "custom" as a marketing device is an unfortunate slight to actual tailors who produce real custom, or bespoke garmets the old fashioned way.
They are the Sandra Lee's of the garmet world, semi-homemade. Mass produced, factory made riffs on standard garments, and should be considered as such. For god's sake, Indochino's website has a section promoting polyester suitings!?
I should note "they" refers to indochino, not bespoke tailors, certainly.
ReplyDeleteAnd re: Patrick's comment upthread, I can't imagine anyone finding fault with your accepting a donated suit - your blog, to me, is always 100% above board with disclosures, etc. even though we clearly have differences of opinion regarding tailoring.
KSG - Thanks again for weighing in, and thank you for the kind note regarding Patrick's comment.
ReplyDeleteAs to your technical argument, while I do take exception to your rather harsh opinion of firms like Indochino, I agree that this is not "true custom", let alone bespoke. However, they claim to be neither.
Indochino's business model, target audience and market positioning are in many ways the antithesis of the Jon Green approach. To me, that's fine because they serve totally different demographics.
I know you are very much a sartorialist and seeing me use the term "custom" in this story caused you some pain, but I stand by that assertion. It IS customized to the customer. In the way and to the degree you prefer? No. Completely hand done and finished? No. Hand stitched button holes and roped shoulders? No.
As I noted, I would love to have Jon whip me up a suit over the next couple of months, but that is far from likely - some day, perhaps - but not now. Indochino does not serve that market and does not have to apologize for it. Quite the opposite; they are bringing a whole new generation of young men into the fold of our world. And as they gain knowledge and experience, grow in their appreciation for finer and more customized clothing, they will move on to the truly custom and bespoke world.
How's that?
I understand what you're saying, but consider this - say you head out and buy a Ford Focus. Instead of the base model, you order one with electric windows and leather seats. Do you now have a "custom" Focus? Surely not. Indochino and others operate on the same premise. From what I can tell, the main difference is that Ford doesn't say "buy our custom car", while the first word you see on Indochino's website is "Custom".
ReplyDeleteI don't think that Indochino need apoliogize to me or anyone else for their business model, but be more honest about what it is - an off the rack quality suit pre-altered to your measurements, with some options available. Without a pattern cut for a sole individual's body type, I fail to see how their product could be considered custom in any meaningful way. Despite our interpretation, the prominent placement of the word "Custom" on each and every page shows their intent...
I have 2 IndoChino suits and a cashmere double breasted pea coat. All fit perfectly and all are much better quality than what you would by off the rack at a similar price. I would say $400-$500 price range aimed at a similar demographic would place you in J. Crew or Banana Republic territory. With Indo, the fit is perfect and the quality is better.
ReplyDeleteIndo also provides great customizations at NO cost that blow any off the rack suit out of the water. On any suit you can add peaked lapels, pick stitching, customizable inner lining color, ticket pocket, slanted pockets, pen pocket, monogramming on the interior of the jacket, number of vents, no belt loops with adjustable side tabs and functional buttons on the cuffs. Again, no extra cost.
I have yet to go out wearing either one of these pieces without receiving compliments. I also agree with this article to the point that Indochino may open the doors to a new group suit wearing sartorialists. For instance, at this price point, I have no problem wearing one of the suits out casually and it helps that I know I will look modern and not like a stodgy politician or a used car salesman (it's just a saying) with an oversized boxy suit.
Now, I will admit, it took some time and adjustments to get my measurements correct. I had to get A LOT of work done on my first pair of suit pants which made me upset as I could not wear it to an event I planned to wear it. Also my Pea coat came in with 2 missing buttons. But, with an email or two, everything can be fixed. As far as the missing buttons, they overnighted 4 extra buttons and paid for them to be sewn on by my tailor.
If you wear suits and can't afford bespoke or buying high end suits off the rack and then have them tailored by your own tailor, there is no reason not to go with Indochino.
Also, I do not work for Indochino. I just reread this post and it sounds like I do. I don't, I just really think this is a breakthrough in affordable men's fashion.
I've picked up a pair of suits and shirts from Indochino and am very happy with them. I had to do a remake of the pants the first time as they came in too short, but otherwise they have been very good.
ReplyDeleteIf you are ordering them, I would suggest leaving the pants unhemmed and taking them to a local tailor to be done. That way they can also take care of any other imperfections there might be.
Nice review and accurate comments -- Indochino is on to something really good.
I am disappointed I can't get working button holes on my suit. I went through all the measuring with the incredibly patient Modern Traditionalist and I can't have what I want. They reserve this option for return customers only. Since for me buttons are a functional piece and not ornamental, I could order my sleeves unfinished. Wanted to get your opinion on this matter first.
ReplyDeleteI am assuming this is fused suit, but was hoping for clarity. Thank you.
Cheers,
BTG
BTG - Great site by the way. As to the working buttons, that is their standard procedure, mostly because they want the customer to be sure that the sleeve length is correct before making such a permanent addition to your jacket. I contacted them separately and asked for the working buttons anyway and they obliged, so shoot them a note.
ReplyDeleteThe suits are not fused, all stitching.
csh
Thank you for the compliment.
ReplyDeleteI will send them a note and see if they are willing to make an exception. Glad to hear they are truly stitched.
BTG
This suits are really elegant, i like to see the stylish i think it is very comfortable and very nice.
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ReplyDeleteI think your point about opening up the possibilites of dressing with the suit every day including weekends as a part of a persona was very well said. At that price point it's less than some mobile phones out there. And what middle school kid doesn't have a mobile phone yet?
ReplyDeleteSo, I absolutely agree. Why not wear a suit you 20 year olds? It's cheap. It betters the world. You might get a better job. And most importantly, you'll have far better luck with the girls!
Us 40-year olds are getting tired of getting all the dames in your demographic range.... wearin' us out.